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Justice Minister replaces NE Hungary police chief

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The police chief of Miskolc in eastern Hungary crossed a line that no representative of the state should and his replacement was a moral decision, Justice Minister Tibor Draskovics told public television on Saturday.

The police chief Albert Pasztor said on Friday that all the burglaries in the city of Miskolc in December and January were committed by people of Gypsy origin.

Draskovics said that the police chief had made an inexplicable distinction between Hungarian and Gypsy criminals, which is unacceptable from any representative of the state, especially a policeman. Draskovics said he was sorry for having to transfer Pasztor to another post adding that he had ordered an investigation into the case.

The local council group of the opposition Fidesz-KDNP called on Draskovics to withdraw the replacement decision and said the police chief had done high quality work that was equally recognised by professionals and the public.

Pasztor told MTI on Saturday that he rejected being called a racist.

Miskolc Mayor Sandor Kali, of the governing Socialist party, said he did not agree with Pasztor’s replacement and added that he had full confidence in the police chief. He said he had asked for a meeting on Monday with the justice minister which would also be attended by heads of the National Police Headquarters and the Borsod-Abauj-Zemplen County police.

Kali said a peaceful demonstration, in which he would take part, is planned in Miskolc for Sunday to express support for Pasztor.

“The whole Roma issue is not a specific Miskolc issue but has become a question of fate for northeast and southeast Hungary,” Kali said. Pasztor simply announced facts and figures and instead of replacing him he needs to be supported, Kali said.

The Roma minority is Hungary’s largest ethnic minority with their numbers estimated between 800,000 and 1 million.

Source: The Budapest Time

Police chief restored to post

Justice Minister Tibor DraskovicsThe police chief of Miskolc in eastern Hungary has been restored to his post with the approval of Justice Minister Tibor Draskovics, the national police chief told MTI on Sunday.

Draskovics moved the Miskolc police chief Albert Pasztor from his post on Saturday as a result of a statement he had made the day before. Pasztor said on Friday that all the burglaries in the city of Miskolc in December and January had been committed by people of Gypsy origin.

National police chief Jozsef Bencze told MTI that an investigation carried out on Saturday showed that Pasztor’s statement did not violate personal rights, nor was it objectionable from the point of data protection. Bencze said he proposed on Saturday that Pasztor’s transfer from his post should be annulled and the minister approved this on Sunday.

At the same time, the investigation revealed that Pasztor’s statement could be misinterpreted and serve as an excuse for generalisation, therefore he received a warning and was told to avoid making such statements in the future, Bencze said.

The justice minister told Hungarian television on Saturday that the police chief had made an inexplicable distinction between Hungarian and Gypsy criminals, which is unacceptable from any representative of the state, especially a policeman.

Pasztor’s suspension raised objections by local politicians including the Mayor of Miskolc who said Pasztor simply announced facts and figures and instead of replacing him he needs to be supported.

On Sunday afternoon, around 1,500 people gathered in central Miskolc for a planned peaceful demonstration in support of Pasztor. Many of the demonstrators were wearing the uniform of Magyar Garda, the paramilitary wing of the radical nationalist Jobbik party, MTI correspondent reported. Police cordoned off the area and stopped tram traffic on the square.

Source: The Budapest Time

All criminals of all crimes are Gypsies!

(The police chief Albert Pasztor)

Coexistence with our fellow citizens from the ethnic minority doesn’t work.

(The police chief Albert Pasztor)

3 Comments:

1 | Ashwin Jangam

February 3rd, 2009, 7:46 pm

Dear Friends Jaibhim, I am Indian boy,living here in Nagpur,Maharashtra,India I have read the news of Police chief.During reading these news I went in flashback and got some memories of Hungary.I was invited by Tibor  Janos in Hungary to see Gypsy culture.I went so many Villages as well as cities too.I lived in a Gypsy/Roma family at Manfa.Sometime I went to see Budapest.I noticed that most of the Gypsy live in villages on the other hand mostly Hungarian white people live in the cities.In my opinion Its a kind of inequality.White Hungarian neither want to see them as Human nor want to allow them in cities also.
I had got experience.I have told that I am Indian so I looks like Gypsy Man because my skin color is same like Gypsy people.One day I was travailed with Janos in the midnight at Budapest.We were waiting for Night-Bus on the Bus stand.On that occasion one Police Jeep came near us.They asked our  Identity Card.I had shown my passport and Janos shown his Identity card.All Police officers not able to talk with me in Good English but they felt tobe proud as they are white Hungarian.I had seen people around us who were white Hungarians but they didn’t asked them for identity.When I asked Janos why were Police come to asked only our Identity? He replied its happen lots of time only with them because Police always feel Gypsy are criminals.It shows Hungarian gives bad treatment to Gypsies.Its the kind of discrimination.

Thank you

2 | Derdák Tibor

February 3rd, 2009, 10:23 pm

Dear Ashwin,
This is great, you express your
solidarity with European Gypsies.
We need it so much,
because Gypsies have become
the scape goats of Hungarian politicians
for the world economic crisis.
You know what you speak, because
you saw the conditions of rural Gypsies.
You came to Hungary as a student, and
you personally felt the discrimination
from the Hungarian policemen,
because of your skin colour.
Tell it to our Dalit brothers and sisters,
because you experienced: Dalit solidarity
is very much appreciated among Gypsies.
Dalits are the largest
ethnic minority that fights for equal rights
in the whole world.
Dalits are extremely succesful
because of the philosophy given by
Dr. Ambedkar.
Thank you.

3 | Alas

June 25th, 2009, 8:45 pm

Dalits are the largest
ethnic minority that fights for equal rights
in the whole world.

In Hungary - thanks to our liberal politicians - Dalits were so successfull in their fight that now the gypsies have much more rights than the hungarian people.
Gypsies does not receive punishments for their crime because in the prisons already they are overrepresented and their sin is justified by police officers. The police does this because they are ordered to do so by the so called socialist politicians. The gipsies swallow the largest part of the social support even though their contribution to the national budget close to zero, but still not satisfied and complain about discrimination. 
Albert Pasztor is one of the officer who talked about this strange situation, that the future criminals are raised on the nations budget and the majority of the hungarian have the same opinion. It became obvious during this few days.

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